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Tony Smith




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 Posted On: 16/02/2003  At: 22:26:30

How many of you can fly a Control Line model please.

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Tony



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 Posted On: 16/02/2003  At: 22:41:50 | Reply Link

Un peu!


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 Posted On: 17/02/2003  At: 21:58:12 | Reply Link

Hi Tony

My first glow aircraft, 1969-71 was a control line model. A Stuka dive bomber made by Cox with 049 Bee engine. It lasted about 2 minutes and I remember how I lost it. This model had a third line which when pulled dropped a red plastic bomb. It was flying nicely and trying to pull the third line caused a slack on one of the lines and a violent down. So it dived a bit to fast and far and smashed.

Salvaged the motor and put in in a Keilktraft Phantom mite. This was a good flyer and I had a lot of fun with it.

Next with a bit of confidence built a Keilkraft Radian which was a model with coupled elevator and flaps, and had a Frog diesel engine. This was a step up too quick for me and could not handle the (relative) high preformance and decked it after a few flights.

Worked through a few more models in the Keilkraft catalogue and finally flew without crashing. I nearly got a Cox RTF at the Nationals last year. I saw it , went to the car to get money and they had sold it when I got back.

Also I remmember a lime green Cox Pitts which was about 12-15" span with Cox 020 and as I used to fly in the garden it must have flown on 10-12ft lines. It used to make the Flyer dizzy. It would be a very good canidate for micro R/C.

Of course the reason I flew conrtol line is it was impossible to afford R/C . The differencial c/l to r/c was 8-12 fold.

I am writing this as I am looking at 30 years of progress on a shelf. A electric Jetranger heli powered by a b/less!! . Still I would like to locate a Keilkraft or old Cox model for nostalgia.

And as for the question , Is it not a bit like once you have learned to ride a bike. ?

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 Posted On: 17/02/2003  At: 22:20:28 | Reply Link

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Is it not a bit like once you have learned to ride a bike. ?



Yes Andy, it probably is! I flew my first c/l in 1948, a twin-boom thing by Veron, powered by an E.D. Competition special, 2 c.c. Since then, I have had brief flirtations with sailplanes and rubber power, but my main interest has always been c/l aerobatics. I made many kits, like you mostly Keilkraft, but then moved on scratchbuilt own designs. I never reached the dizzy heights of a Roy Cherry, but I could do most of the manoevres. Problem was the round loops were square, and vice versa. Again, the preponderance of home-brew models was largely down to lack of funds. I still have two or three stunt models, which come out only about once a year. I never touched radio till two years ago - I have found electrics have given me a way in to this discipline - I've only ever flown one i/c r/c model - too much hassle!

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 Posted On: 19/02/2003  At: 22:40:44 | Reply Link

Does swinging a cat by the tail count

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 Posted On: 19/02/2003  At: 22:46:13 | Reply Link

Depends what size engine you had straped to it !!


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 Posted On: 19/02/2003  At: 23:09:42 | Reply Link

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Does swinging a cat by the tail count


Yes, if you can do square eights with it!

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 Posted On: 19/02/2003  At: 23:46:00 | Reply Link

It would still sound like an Control Line model.
You know.... Meowwww meowwww meowwww..............doh
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Does swinging a cat by the tail count

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 Posted On: 29/04/2003  At: 11:45:10 | Reply Link

Tony
I tried control line about 25 years ago when my son was a little sprog.
Like brianathayes I could’nt afford radio control.
The event took place at Horsendon Hill, but not much luck.
After several unsuccessful attempts I eventually conceded that I would never be able to fly control line and I never have.
Sad isn’t it.



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 Posted On: 29/04/2003  At: 13:52:03 | Reply Link

Never had the pleasure

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 Posted On: 20/05/2003  At: 20:31:10 | Reply Link

Never had the chance to either. i've seen it once and sandown and i'm sorry to say i didn't like the look of it

radio control or f/f for me please



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 Posted On: 21/05/2003  At: 11:13:02 | Reply Link

Felix, don't knock it till you've tried it! Unlike R/C, it is a discipline that probably gives more satisfaction to the flyer than the spectator - there is a sense of being directly in control of the model, as you can feel the effect of your control through your hand. Neither is it as easy as it looks!

In any case, what you may have seen at Sandown is not a good representation of C/L, except, maybe for some minor combat flying. Try to get down to our field when someone like Roy Cherry or John Benzing, both Gold Trophy winners, are practising with their high-tech aerobatic models, and enjoy some real precision flying, square and triangular loops and figure 8's, pulling out from the vertical at 3 ft height - it can take your breath away. This, you will never see at Sandown.

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 Posted On: 21/05/2003  At: 11:33:35 | Reply Link

Well I also watched the control line at Sandown in particular a 6 person combat. Now watching 6 people walking round in a circle was one of the funniest things I and many of the spectators had seen and produced a lot of laughter.

However when people realised the general aim of what they were doing, they started to be quiet and stayed to watch.

When it came down to the last 3 everybody started to cheer them on and at the end it was like the finish of the Grand National with people and children really shouting.

The entertainment value of this was second to none at that time, and im sure if there was another combat to follow straight away, many of those people would have pulled up a chair.

Im with Brian on this one, there is a lot more to this then you think.



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 Posted On: 21/05/2003  At: 19:03:45 | Reply Link

I saw a 3 man combat at Sandown, I too stood there till it finished it looked like it was great fun

ooh remembering a certain control line plane combating a hanging light at Southall an inspired thought

Combat control line with look a like And Nows... cheap n cheerful





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 Posted On: 21/05/2003  At: 19:39:31 | Reply Link

i saw at Sandown one of our members use Albert Briggs ( RIP ) 4 engined CL plane, dun think he expected that kinda pull and he ended up flying OVER peoples heads, leathal.
the question shouldnt be can you fly CL, its can you run round in circles for 5 mins without falling over? if the answer is yes then you can fly CL

ps, it IS funny watching 6 guys run like they just made a mess of their pants



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 Posted On: 05/08/2003  At: 13:42:57 | Reply Link

I can. I've got a diesel model, but don't fly it anymore.
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How many of you can fly a Control Line model please.

Thanks


Tony




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 Posted On: 12/08/2003  At: 14:54:08 | Reply Link

It's a bit quiet round here innit ?

I have a few C/L models and even get out to fly them from time to time.

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 Posted On: 20/08/2003  At: 00:01:38 | Reply Link

For a minute there I thought I'd found something interesting.

Anyone know of any real UK-based C/L forums ? You know, where they average more than one message a month or at least say hello :(.

Steve



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 Posted On: 20/08/2003  At: 09:40:44 | Reply Link

I wanna try some CL flying.

Mel.



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 Posted On: 20/08/2003  At: 14:46:09 | Reply Link

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Originally posted by slewin

For a minute there I thought I'd found something interesting.

Anyone know of any real UK-based C/L forums ? You know, where they average more than one message a month or at least say hello :(.

Steve




Sorry you've not had much response, Steve, probably the main reason is that, though we have some good C/L pilots like Roy Cherry, they are not particularly active on the web. C/L will never be as popular as it was some years ago, but there is still an enthusiastic core following, and lots of contests up and down the country.
Probably the best UK site to kick off with is Dave Day's on http://www.iroquois.free-online.co.uk/cl.htm
He also has links to several others.

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 Posted On: 20/08/2003  At: 16:23:27 | Reply Link

Is there a on-line plan for a easy to build good first control liner?

Mel.



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