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Thanks for all the advice
you have given me 1 or 2 things to try, the tramsmiter is a futaba T7cp and i was using a 6 chan futaba ppm reciver but i have a pcm one winging its way to me so ill give that a try.
moving the esc solved the problem on the F16 pusher although i did place everything as stated in the instructions as i have with the F20
ill keep you posted as to how things go, i think i might give one of your javalins a try in the near future 
Mark
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Mark.... Do not use a PCM Rx if you have any kind of interference with a PPM Rx, all it will do is mask the interference until it locks out and you WILL lose your model. 
Steve
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Good point! LOL
i have a Tister Storm (helicopter) with a schultz reciver, ill swap that for the pcm one and see how it goes 
Mark
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Try the park zone habu so easy to fly easy out of hand or off grass and very fast . flys like paten ship go's like stink ont funjet fast but still lots of fun.
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